Jan 12, 2018. #7. Out to 80 yards a 58 with 140 grains is going to abuse the shooter about as much as it will abuse the deer if ranges are around 80 yards or less. That might be a good load for larger game, but over kill for deer. I've killed deer with a 50 with about 80 grains of 2f and it did just fine.An invoice found in the AFC records for goods sent to the 1834 rendezvous lists "6 steel mounted rifles, Hawken," at $20 each and "10 steel mounted rifles," at $17.50 each. The latter are probably some of the "steel" mounted American pattern rifles that the AFC ordered from JJ Henry based on the listed price.Reaction score. 45. Dec 19, 2012. #15. Your rifle is indeed one of Navy Arm's Hawken "Hunter" in .58 caliber. The guns had a 1:60" twist, with a shallow .003" to .005" depth, and were specifically built to take big powder charges.Patrick Rumora said: There is a huge difference between black powder and smokeless black powder and I want to make a few things clear. 1) Do not try to use any smokeless powders in any type of muzzleloader, UNLESS IT SPECIFIES IT. 2) If you don't understand the difference between black powder and smokeless powders.261. Location. Colorado. Jun 9, 2023. #1. Goex restarted production last week. Thank you for your patience on this long road to restarting production. Rebuilding and running a black powder plant safely is not a trivial matter. We brought in explosives manufacturing experts and made improvements throughout the plant.Messages. 7,913. Reaction score. 1,950. Apr 21, 2013. #8. According to the Greenhill formula for calculating the spin required for a given bullet length or, conversely, length of bullet which can be stabilized by a given twist, a twist of 1:66 will work for bullets .568" long or shorter in a .50 caliber. Spence.At my last range session, I shot a 4 inch group at 75 yards off my elbows (no bags) with a .50 caliber Traditions Kentucky. The load was 50 grains of Pyrodex P (3f), cotton patch with spit and beeswax/olive oil lube and a .490 home cast round ball. Next time, I hope to remember and take the sand bags.26. Location. Woodlands of Northern New England. Jan 4, 2006. #4. No disrespect intended to Stumpkiller, I'm very big into target shooting and competitive shoots. While target shooting i've had many people come over to watch me with a muzzleloader,try mine and then get into muzzleloading at our club shoots.Aug 14, 2012 · Reaction score. 45. Dec 19, 2012. #15. Your rifle is indeed one of Navy Arm's Hawken "Hunter" in .58 caliber. The guns had a 1:60" twist, with a shallow .003" to .005" depth, and were specifically built to take big powder charges. 2024 Muzzleloader Guide - Notes. Putting together a packing List for what to get to begin a semi-traditional style of practicing ML hunting. Please feel free to add recommendations and advice on what you think works best in your experience. Rifle - Something maybe a little shorter than a full long rifle im a sucker for mannlicher styled rifles.Hang on (or don't) for dear life! Join our newsletter for exclusive features, tips, giveaways! Follow us on social media. We use cookies for analytics tracking and advertising from...Jul 23, 2023. #5. I have a Pedersoli Kentucky in .50cal with both the flint lock and percussion lock. Though a nicely made rifle and straight shooter it is defiantly my most disliked Muzzleloading rifle due to the heavy trigger and rather poor preforming lock. I would not buy another single trigger only, though would if it had the double set ...Marriott has announced the opening of the AC Hotel by Marriott St. Julian's in the sunny island nation of Malta in southern Europe. We may be compensated when you click on product ...Kevin Houlihan said: There’s a ton of room for the rear lock bolt. The bolt will screw into the bolster to the rear of the screw that attaches the bolster to the plate. Next drill your front lock bolt so it will screw into the lock plate in front of the main spring. Be sure to miss the barrel and the ramrod groove.Apr 21, 2024 ... Well, the Palmetto Sharpshooters (N-SSA) shot in a small match and had a ball. Smoothbore and Carbine then break for lunch and then into the ...179. Location. Texas. May 8, 2020. #1. These precision made tools are the preferred way to cone the muzzles of roundball guns either rifled or smoothbore. Greatly eases starting the ball and the long cone allows the ball to be gently swaged into the bore without damage. I believe accuracy is unchanged.Reaction score. 291. Location. New Hampshire. Jan 6, 2024. #1. I know there are a few lucky people that may still have their deer season or others open, but up here in the great north woods everything is closed. Our next season to look forward to is Turkey season which opens the beginning of May.The subject got on Uberti vs Pietta. He said that Uberti upgraded the factory to modern C&C machining and other "upgrades" to offset labor costs. Once that was complete they retired or laid off most of the skilled labor. While Uberti was making the upgrades, Pietta watched as they were considering similar factory upgrades.Traditional Muzzleloading on the Cheap - Info Center. 170762 Posts in 21384 Topics by 144 Members. Latest Member: smdoyle. Latest Post: "Re: Powder" ( Today at …Stack all that over FFFG black powder. Start your charges around 45-50 grains of powder. Increase the charge 5 grains at a time until you find what the rifle likes. Consider getting a range rod for loading, use the short starter you have shown in the photo.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.33,410. Reaction score. 8,508. Location. Phoenix, AZ. Feb 26, 2019. #2. A company that called itself Ultra-Hi tried getting into the black powder muzzleloading game back in the 1970's by importing low cost guns. I'm not sure where they were made but I …First off, let me say that I am brand new to flintlock hunting. I have been hunting my entire life and been around guns my entire life. I have hunted with in line muzzle loaders for many years. I bought the Pa. Pellet for the simple reason that it gave me the ability to hunt for a few more weeks in northwest Pa. without breaking the bank.Clay Smith kits | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks ...32 Cal. When I discovered a 72 cal Pedersoli Double rifle being offered for sale for only $675, I couldn't believe no one jumped on it before me. Well, I jumped because $675 is a super bargain. These rifles usually sell for $1200 - $1600.23. Location. Upstate NY. Dec 23, 2012. #6. I used 80 gr. 2F with a t/c 370gr. maxi ball was a very accurate load out of all my 50 cal. t/c muzzleloaders with a 1:48 twist. A 320 gr. t/c maxi ball worked well also. Never had much luck with accuracy with the t/c maxi hunters. The maxi balls have great penetration.Reaction score. 291. Location. New Hampshire. Jan 6, 2024. #1. I know there are a few lucky people that may still have their deer season or others open, but up here in the great north woods everything is closed. Our next season to look forward to is Turkey season which opens the beginning of May.Pro's and Con's wanted from those who have owned or fired this rifle. Been looking for something a bit more traditional to replace my Bobcat with and the St Louis Hawken is one I have been looking at recently. Have also looked at the Lyman Trade rifle and Traditions Woodsman. Any comments on...I use the ready made stuff from totw, and it works really well, so I thought why not try a home brew. I went to blue ribbon products inc out of Indiana they sell 8oz of pure mink oil for $8.50 plus shipping (abt $12.00) I mixed 1/2 oz oil to 1 oz lamb tallow, all by weight put the mix in a container in warm water to blend it.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.Fortytwoguns | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks you ...40 Cal. There are many variables to consider when working up a load for any muzzleloading rifle. Bore size, rare of twist, patching material for round ball, powder type, lube for your bullet/patches. all of these things will affect accuracy and the type of powder you use and the best charge to use.40 Cal. This is a Numrich Arms Swivel Breech rifle in .45. Build by Hopkins and Allen in early 70s. I bought this rifle for a much grander project. I was planning to make wooden side panels for barrels and reset ramrod pipes. Stock had damage to toe, that I repaired, as well as a cracked buttplate. Had to take a much larger one and refit it.Dear Lifehacker,Sep 19, 2023. #7. I killed my bull on the 5th day of the 9 day Colorado muzzleloader season. Walking a ridge overlooking a deep canyon we spotted 3 different bulls on the slopes across the other side. After glassing them for a while, we finally decided to slide down the hill on our butts to go after the biggest one.Accoutrements | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks ...Jan 16, 2020 · 69 Cal. I’m working on a TOW Brown Bess Kit, which according to Jess Melot the owner of the rifle shoppe, the 1746 Wilets kit was a kit he designed 30 years ago for CD Jarnigan Co. That was copied over by Track of the Wolf. On a difficultly level, I can’t really say much because its my first kit build. Reaction score. 336. Location. New Mexico/Colorado. Dec 14, 2022. #1. I’ve been meaning to share a pic of my 1863 Shiloh Sharps for awhile. A Farmingdale NY, Model 100 (stamped on the barrel), #2 Sporter in .54, 30” barrel. Read somewhere that Wolfgang Droege only made six of these, not sure how true that is.Muzzleloading Forum discussion community & muzzleloading/reenactors for sale classifieds. Muzzle loading forums for reenactors, mountain men, French &...Location. Montana. Jan 23, 2024. #1. One thing I do like about winter is that it gives me a little spare time to catch up on some of my projects. I just finished this 1769 Pattern Short Land Brown Bess from the Rifle Shoppe. Now I will finish out the TRS Baker rifle I started a while back.Reducing width by 25% reduces spring strength by 25%. Thinning by narrowing reduces strength proportionally. Thinning reduces strength relative to the square of the thickness. 3/4 times 3/4 = 9/16. 4/4 times 4/4 =16/16 or one (unchanged). 16/16 minus 9/16 = 7/16 loss or 43% loss.1. Jan 31, 2024. #4. Lakes Crossing Muzzleloaders are still around. FB is where to contact them. I need to pay my dues. Not sure how the club is doing though, as their main shooting range looks like it is in the history books, and they are looking for new shooting places. They usually sponsor 3 'rondyvoos' each year, tin tipis ok.Spectators | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks you get.Over time, esp. with heavy use, the brass will kind of "stretch" a bit, loosen up somewhat. The steel costs a bit more, but will last forever if cared for. I saw a brass 1851 in .44 cal. recently (the originals didn't come in .44!) and it looks great. It would be fun to shoot a 1851-style in .44, I'd think.Stack all that over FFFG black powder. Start your charges around 45-50 grains of powder. Increase the charge 5 grains at a time until you find what the rifle likes. Consider getting a range rod for loading, use the short starter you have shown in the photo.The proposed rule changes could make Roth accounts and Roth conversions even more valuable than ever, since they are not subject to RMDs. The Internal Revenue Service has proposed ...4. Sep 7, 2008. #8. There's almost as many different types of patchbox release mechanisms as their are schools of longrifles. Some builders that try to recreate specific longrifles as exactly as possible try to use the same type of mechanism as the original rifle they are copying, even if the mechanism is hidden.Hi, I recently re-read James Forsyth "The sporting rifle and its projectiles" as I read it for z very first time some years before and I became interested why is it that muzzloading rifles (specially those shooting patched round balls) are most accurate with one specific powder amount. It is obvious why rifle's accuracy deteriorates when loaded with too much powder.Nov 2, 2023. #10. I tried the dawn thing, just to slimy for my liking. I use simple green and water as my patch lube 50/50. I keep the little hand sanitizer containers with the snap open lids on them and use it for woods walk, they work great. My buddy gave me some vape oil containers with screw tops, wash them out and put the simple green mix ...1,637. Location. CA. Oct 14, 2023. #15. I started casting both modern and round balls back in 1968 and used a 40 pound capacity lead cast iron pot on top of a 20 pound plumbers propane tank burner. I would start casting on a Saturday morning and stop around 3:00 or 4:00 in the afternoon.Flintlock Rifles | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks ...4. Sep 7, 2008. #8. There's almost as many different types of patchbox release mechanisms as their are schools of longrifles. Some builders that try to recreate specific longrifles as exactly as possible try to use the same type of mechanism as the original rifle they are copying, even if the mechanism is hidden.209 Guests, 3 Users Users active in past 15 minutes: Rufus, The Stumbler, BruceH. Most Online Today: 316.Most Online Ever: 1042 (February 21, 2023, 06:14:54 AM)5,750. Reaction score. 8,562. Location. Tyrone , Pa. 16686. Apr 20, 2024. #7. Also , any time you fire one barrel , uncap the unfired one , and run the ramrod down on the remaining loaded barrel to make sure the load is still where you left it , when you last loaded it. This is a safety check many forget.Much more than a modern firearm that has had 200 rounds through it. Use lubes like olive oil or crisco or whatever you like best while you're shooting to keep the fouling soft enough to re-load. Even the small amount of wax in my paper fiber wads helps a lot to keep the fouling soft.Please help identify | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account ...Houston Tx area | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks ...Black Powder Pistols. Post thread. Discussions of Black Powder Pistols happens here.Join the discussion on muzzleloading rifles, shotguns, pistols, cartridges, bullets, optics, and more. Find tips, reviews, recipes, photos, videos, and sponsors for muzzleloading enthusiasts.Jun 24, 2023 · Oct 19, 2023. #3. 4' stick of 4" SCH-40 PVC with a strip of something wrapped around it like a barber pole. Pull it through a plywood plate with a hole and notch guide cut in it. Couple 2x4s, some screws, a small stick of round bar, some clamps, and a cutter head that I'll machine. One is a rusty JC Higgens .22 missing its clip, a .177 pellet rifle with a plugged barrel and a rusty CVA 12 guage percussion double barrel shotgun. We have a few kids in the neighborhood so I thought, "It really wouldn't be good for a kid to find these and make off with them. Somebody might get hurt."The first one he did last summer. It was a roached 50 cal that he re-bored to 54 1:28 twist for PP bullets. The second one I just got back on Friday. 2 week turn around. It was 50 cal with a frosted bore that he re bored to 54 cal 1:60 twist with .012 deep rifling for patched RB.0. Jan 29, 2007. #1. Hi, Most of my muzzleloader experience is with tc hawkens... I just picked up a used Traditions Deer Hunter, percussion, 1:48" twist 24" barrel, Its a little older model with the wood stock and thin fixed rubber butt plate...gun is in really nice shape, but it needs a few things ! The first and most important is the flat ...3,489. Reaction score. 4,369. Jan 28, 2021. #1. I recently purchased a Numrich Arms Swivel Barrel rifle (.45). I want to strip finish and brown it. My question is about disassembling the gun. The barrels are held onto the frame by a knurled bolt (?) that uses an allen wrench.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.2,427. Location. Federal Way Washington. Nov 23, 2022. #1. Thompson Center traditional muzzleloaders, arguably the best production blackpowder guns ever made. That ought to get some blood boiling.Marriott has announced the opening of the AC Hotel by Marriott St. Julian's in the sunny island nation of Malta in southern Europe. We may be compensated when you click on product ...6,835. Reaction score. 7,792. Dec 5, 2023. #1. Rec'd. the Dec. Muzzle Blasts 12/5; they said pallets of the issue are still at the St. Louis PO distribution due to a "mercury contamination issue"! Maybe the same printer/mailer handled the Muzzleloader magazine issues?Reaction score. 789. Location. Lufkin,Texas. Jun 22, 2020. #1. I finally have a shootable Navy arms Buffalo Hunter .58. The first one froze nupple cracked stock in 2 places so I bought a 2nd one this one is a shooter. Managed groups under 2 inches at 50 yards using a .58 maxi from track of the wolf 100 grains Goex 2F felted over powder.A forum for discussing various types of muzzleloading firearms and black powder shooting. Find threads on topics such as barrels, caps, patches, loads, guns, and more.Location. Maine. Mar 21, 2023. #1. Questions - Kibler Colonial Long Rifle Kit. Intro: So I started my first introduction to flintlocks and building rifles of wood and metal last weekend. I live in Maine and am a SIG-trained armorer in pistols and rifles, a business owner, and also work in emergency medicine. I say that by way of introduction ...216. Mar 11, 2022. #1. Hello all. Thought maybe I would share a few pictures of an Underhammer that I've been working on this past winter. The gun was finished basically to in "the white" by my gunsmith. The barrel is a 32" GM LRH 50 cal 1-28 twist. The action is from Taylor Machine.Investarms Hawkens are great rifles, well built and accurate. My first muzzleloader ever (bought in 1977) was a Charles Daly (Investarms) .54 Hawken, still have it, still shoots great. Added several more since then, never have had a problem or breakage. Not authentic to any original design, but super guns for the money.Reaction score. 45. Dec 19, 2012. #15. Your rifle is indeed one of Navy Arm's Hawken "Hunter" in .58 caliber. The guns had a 1:60" twist, with a shallow .003" to .005" depth, and were specifically built to take big powder charges.Messages. 7,913. Reaction score. 1,950. Apr 21, 2013. #8. According to the Greenhill formula for calculating the spin required for a given bullet length or, conversely, length of bullet which can be stabilized by a given twist, a twist of 1:66 will work for bullets .568" long or shorter in a .50 caliber. Spence.Oct 13, 2013 · 2,427. Location. Federal Way Washington. Nov 23, 2022. #1. Thompson Center traditional muzzleloaders, arguably the best production blackpowder guns ever made. That ought to get some blood boiling. Welcome to 'Traditional Muzzleloading', the foremost Facebook group for enthusiasts and historians passionate about muzzleloading firearms and their rich history. Our community is the perfect gathering place for those fascinated by the art and craft of traditional muzzleloading, from flintlock rifles to percussion cap muskets.Reaction score. 789. Location. Lufkin,Texas. Jun 22, 2020. #1. I finally have a shootable Navy arms Buffalo Hunter .58. The first one froze nupple cracked stock in 2 places so I bought a 2nd one this one is a shooter. Managed groups under 2 inches at 50 yards using a .58 maxi from track of the wolf 100 grains Goex 2F felted over powder.127. Reaction score. 252. Dec 23, 2021. #6. necchi said: With the kit stock as received, lightly wet it, that will enhance the grain appearance. If your stock presents areas of open grain (you'll see it) you could use a light slurry of a bone black agent and sand it back a bit after it dries.882. Reaction score. 13. Jan 28, 2005. #1. A few days back I did a spread sheet on the ballistic performance of the .50 cal round ball. I got several PM, and a few eMail, asking about the .54 round ball. Well, for all those who asked, and anyone else who may be interested, I ran a program on the .54 Round ball using the following parameters.Jan 10, 2019 · Smokeless Muzzleloading. Post thread. Loads, tips, and shooting for the Savage muzzleloader, SMI smokeless and other muzzleloaders approved for smokeless ONLY. Warning! Smokeless powder loads are not for use in any other muzzleloaders. Reaction score. 7,695. Sep 30, 2022. #6. JackGGarner said: I am the owner o Tennessee Valley Manufacturing. Been doing muzzleloading for 59 years. we do mostly everything here. I have r own castings, wood and most supplies for muzzle loaders. 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1. Jan 19, 2009. #2. While the patent breech is an old design, the hook-breech is not. Today the hook-breech is used mainly on halfstock rifles and shotguns so the barrels can be quickly removed. When you have a fullstock rifle there will be very few times when you want to remove the barrel.. Mature women naked pics free
Reaction score. 21,973. Location. Louisiana & My camp in Mississippi. Jul 9, 2023. #2. Mike, there's been some controversy over TVM's quality control in recent post. I can't prove or disprove that. But I have a Kibler Woodsrunner and SMR with another Woodsrunner on the way.Reaction score. 1,305. Location. Minnesota. Sep 3, 2021. #4. Good load for what, shooting paper at 15 yards or deer at 65. A good load for mine is 25-30 grains of FFG. takes the heads from small game out to 30 yards, 47 grains is a great all around woods carry-target load but 65 grs is better when deer are in season.540. Location. Uwharrie Mountains, N. Carolina. Mar 25, 2024. #1. Navy Arms powder measure, unmarked pan primer, and a ball starter. $35 shipped CONUS. PM if interested. PayPal Friends and Family or money order accepted.Depreciation is considered a non-cash transaction. This is because it is an adjustment to net income that allows companies to write off a certain amount of the asset's value in the...Smoothbore | The Muzzleloading Forum. This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks you get.The Deerslayer was published in 1841, and is set a century earlier in the 1740's on beautiful Otsego Lake (Cooperstown, NY). It's a work of fiction, and no more bound by historical reality than is Hollywood. The Edward Marshall rifle is the earliest surviving American Rifle that I know of, and it dates from the 1760's.I did get a chance to physically hold a Pedersoli Blue Ridge in a 50 caliber, flintlock, this past Saturday. It was a very used one, at a local gun shop and priced within $70 of a new one. My second choice would be a Lyman Great Plains rifle, in a 50 caliber, percussion....but I'd prefer the long rifle.Reaction score. 2. Jul 11, 2005. #6. Russ Hamm (in Indiana) made flint and percussion locks (no longer in production) patterned after Ashmore and marked "Ashmore Warranted" in two lines. I had a right hand flint lock and it was excellent quality. I believe Mr. Hamm stamped the insides of the lockplates with his name, but do not recall for certain.With conicals, You can go a bit slower than 1:48 and still stabilize some longer bullets. But, either paper patched bullets in shallow grooves must be used, nor a good base wad to seal the gases behind the bullet needs to be used so that you can get the velocity needed to stabilize these longer bullets in flight.Friends, our 2nd Amendment rights are always under attack and the NRA has been a constant for decades in helping fight that fight. We have partnered with the NRA to offer you a discount on membership and Muzzleloading Forum gets a small percentage too of each membership, so you are supporting both the NRA and us.Ok, so this pandemic thing finally gave me the time to finish out the CVA 45 cal percussion Kentucky Pistol kit I picked up a while ago. While I have a number of guns, this is my first black powder kit and before I screw something up firing it, I thought it would be prudent to post on here for some advice.The builder of my rifle made a clean kill at 90 yards with 70 grains 3f in a .54. I looked up the load in the Lyman Black Powder Handbook and Loading Manual; 70 grains 3f Goex, .535 ball. muzzle energy - 963 ft lb. 100 yards - 456 ft lb. 90 grains 3f Goex, .535 ball. muzzle energy - 1111 ft lb. 100 yards - 487 ft lb.Clothing, Cookware, Crafts For Sale/Wanted/Trade. Reenactment clothing, fabric, patterns, cookware and craft finished products and supplies. No commercial sales. You must have 15 posts AND be a member for 30 days OR be a Supporting Member to post here.You indeed have a Mowrey rifle, which were produced for a while in Olney, Texas. They are a copy of the Allen & Thurber rifles of the 1850's and 1860's, which were produced in Worcester, Massachusetts. A rather unique rifle in the era of the caplock, they used a casting to house the action, and a very large casting in the butt of the stock.Mar 10, 2008. #4. When I was a kid, we didn't have fancy pre-made wads. We used pieces of old wasp nest (very good), news paper and even cotton balls. The trick was to pull the cotton balls apart a little bit so that they didn't fly very far. Lubed with a loose beeswax and tallow/olive oil lube they worked well.The patent breech in percussion guns is safer and easier to clean. Drum and nipple breeches are manure from several perspectives. Most modern patent breeches on the factory made guns are designed to be cheap to make and install. I believe the Nock antechamber breech gives better velocity but experience is limited..